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Post by Mel on Aug 27, 2009 10:26:03 GMT 1
I thought it's time to open this thread already We can discuss our expectations, hopes and fears for this first competitions for Stephane after the break, maybe our plans of attending and meeting each othere there, etc. Who's going to Oberstdorf?
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Post by Ramani on Aug 27, 2009 12:21:47 GMT 1
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Post by leana on Aug 27, 2009 15:47:39 GMT 1
Good initiative, Mel. I can't know for sure, of course, but I think Stephane will show his Zebra in Germany. After its successful presentation in Korea, I have fallen in love with it again, and noticed some new movements, which I associate with a wild animal, i.e. more zebra-like-)). Anyway, there's a lot of passion in the image and it's so much appealing.
We haven't seen 3 lutz yet, but I'm sure it will be in place by end of September. Given the participants, there's no need for 3A or quad, really, to satisfy the minimal expectations, unless he decides to renew his experience of trying to pass them in competitions. Jumping consistency is another important factor to be reckoned with, but I doubt we'll see extra difficulties in Oberstdorf.
I know everyone remembers it, but let's state it again here that to qualify, Stephane needs to get 195 points and finish, at least, 6. (Am I right?) We'd prefer him to win the competition, of course, and honestly, why not? I believe he has a good chance of winning it.
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Post by stephanie2006 on Aug 27, 2009 20:06:52 GMT 1
There are two different requirements: - To get the Olympic spot for Switzerland, the ranking at Nebelhorn needs to be within 1 to 6 among the nations which try to qualify and have no spot yet. - To be selected for the Olympics by Swiss Olympic, two times 195 points are required in the next competitions.
With the Tango ready for a long time as a show program and started off as the new LP, I had no doubts so far that we'll see this LP at Nebelhorn.
But especially, I can't wait to see the Tell SP!
Now it's 4 weeks to go, I might start counting days soon....
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Post by Nadin on Aug 27, 2009 20:23:59 GMT 1
Now it's 4 weeks to go, I might start counting days soon.... same here
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Post by Mel on Aug 28, 2009 7:29:35 GMT 1
and here)) can't wait to see the new SP too!
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Post by reut on Aug 28, 2009 9:52:46 GMT 1
With the Tango ready for a long time as a show program and started off as the new LP, I had no doubts so far that we'll see this LP at Nebelhorn. Me too, I think it'll be Tango. I wonder though if he keeps it through the season and if he is not "tired" of it. As for now only Flamenco was the program which "survived" more than one season (also "Four seasons" if we count Skate Canada, but there as far as I understand it was because Flamenco wasn't ready). On the other hand it'll be a bit different Tango, so...
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Post by nike2010 on Aug 28, 2009 11:57:37 GMT 1
Thank you for opening this thread, Mel! Ramani, thanks for helpful links! I haven't decided yet if I go to Oberstdorf, but as far as LP is concerned, I'd rather agree with Leana: 4 Seasons were not presented just for show. The program, however renewed, stays for a long time in a skater's mind and muscles, and this one was a triumphant one. As for Tango, it seems a bit incomplete for competitions yet, it's only 4 minutes long... And the placing of jumps is somehow not usual for Stephane's scheme . On the other hand, I wonder if he ever fell into line with any sort of scheme ;D. He's always had a surprise for the audience.. And I'm also awaiting impatiently for the Rossini SP . BTW, Plushenko mentioned he might bring a totally new SP for the Olympics - like Stephane did in 2006 nike2010 = lamur muse
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Post by fruitiers on Aug 28, 2009 12:49:22 GMT 1
In my opinion, 4 seasons was shown there because of the show concept (classical music with orchestra for the 1st part of the show). Besides, I strongly doubt he'd back to the program for the previous olympic games while he is preparing the upcoming next olympics. Stéphane seems to be a guy who looks for the new thing, doesn't he? And since he'd not participate in grand prix series, he might have to "train" his competitive tango before the Olympics as much as possible, I guess. I'm impatiently looking forward to seeing the SP, too. As Alban Préaubert took the same piece with concept of "jockey and crazy horse", it would be interesting to see what concept did choose our Stéphane. (BTY, Plushy will change his SP? That means he will drop his Chopin program? Good choice, I'd say )
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Post by Nadin on Aug 28, 2009 13:09:38 GMT 1
yeah, I'm pretty convinced that we're going to see his Tango programme.
I'm also quite certain that we will see a level of difficulty which is in line with Stéphane's current condition. So, if he's currently landing a 4T, then he will show it. I don't think he will tone down technical difficulty because of the nature of the event. I think Stéphane is very much his own competitor and will want to show the best performance he can give, regardless of what level will be shown by other skaters.
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Post by stephanie2006 on Aug 28, 2009 13:14:04 GMT 1
I agree with you fruitiers. And every competition before the Olympics is an opportunity to have your program jugded and make adjustements.
On the website of the Swiss Federation they mention that they try to get Stéphane a Grand Prix spot.
By the way, during last Worlds, where Stéphane was sitting in the audience, he had more time to think about judging aspects than when he was competing. I wonder if this will have any influence on the construction of the new programs while not forgetting the art and beauty of it.
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Post by Nadin on Aug 28, 2009 13:19:45 GMT 1
On the website of the Swiss Federation they mention that they try to get Stéphane a Grand Prix spot. Oh, really? Have you got a link to that? I was wondering how his absence from any Grand Prix event would affect his preperations..
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Post by stephanie2006 on Aug 28, 2009 13:37:31 GMT 1
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Post by Nadin on Aug 28, 2009 13:40:33 GMT 1
Thanks
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Post by reut on Aug 28, 2009 14:15:17 GMT 1
I agree with fruitiers about the reasons why Stephane went back to "Four seasons" and that he is too inventive and original to use the same program for two Olympic games. And I agree with nadin about the level of difficulty Stephane will try at Nebelhorn. I think he'll try everything which will be OK with his health condition at that moment, including quad. And I don't think it'll make any difference if the other competitors try ultra C or not (we have there Andreev with good 3A and we have there Ponsero with 4T).
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