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Post by reut on Aug 17, 2011 16:24:05 GMT 1
Oh my gosh, reut, where did you find this??? Google Alerts brought it to me. Cute pictures indeed.
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Post by sonik on Aug 17, 2011 21:50:56 GMT 1
Oh my gosh, reut, where did you find this??? Google Alerts brought it to me. Cute pictures indeed. starting to be jealous ;D
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Post by reut on Aug 21, 2011 11:40:19 GMT 1
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Post by lauravvv on Aug 21, 2011 17:54:26 GMT 1
Thanks, reut, for the links to pictures and that nice video .
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Post by reut on Aug 26, 2011 7:10:18 GMT 1
On a funny note, Volosozhar/Trankov showed their short program at test skates in Moscow. Their music is... "Bring me to life". Considering the fact that they had many shows with Stephane this year, no doubt where their inspiration came from.
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Post by annelfie on Aug 29, 2011 17:41:31 GMT 1
On a funny note, Volosozhar/Trankov showed their short program at test skates in Moscow. Their music is... "Bring me to life". Considering the fact that they had many shows with Stephane this year, no doubt where their inspiration came from. A bit off topic although you might say that Stéphanes fans are interested in how others skate to "his" music.... Are there videos from Volosozhar/Trankov ' s Bring Me To Life, yet? So sorry their programs from last year were just for so little competitions. They were wonderful at the russian championships. So I'm really curieus of how they skate to Bring Me To Life, that feels so much like it's Stéphanes music :-) Besides, I wondered about skating suits. Trankov seems so much taller than Stéphane, yet they managed to change skating costumes at some party... how can that be? Salut, Annelfie
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Post by lauravvv on Aug 29, 2011 18:47:18 GMT 1
So sorry their programs from last year were just for so little competitions. They were wonderful at the russian championships. I tink, they were good also at the Worlds . I know some fans who don't thinks so, as they don't like this program for some reason (I am certainly not one of them). So, it will be no wonder if they think that Volosozhar's/Trankov's version is much better. Plus, I think it will be difficult to compare, as it's an instrumental (and, surely, very different) version of this song against a vocal version, a competition program against an exhibition program, and a pair against a single skater. We couldn't see their feet in the photos. If we could see that, then, most likely, we would have also seen that Maxim's pants were too long for Stephane, and Stephane's pants were too short for Maxim .
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Post by pia on Aug 30, 2011 7:02:09 GMT 1
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Post by kayin on Aug 30, 2011 17:41:57 GMT 1
Super video Pia. I find that really interesting, because in the past I've always found Patrick to be like a pale copy of Stephane (wasn't there a season where his programme was almost idenitcal?). This is just my opinion, feel free to disagree.
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Post by lauravvv on Aug 30, 2011 18:27:53 GMT 1
Thank you, pia, already watched . Nice video indeed.
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Post by lauravvv on Aug 30, 2011 18:44:25 GMT 1
I find that really interesting, because in the past I've always found Patrick to be like a pale copy of Stephane (wasn't there a season where his programme was almost idenitcal?). This is just my opinion, feel free to disagree. This, of course, is a bit off topic. I too have noticed some similarities to Stephane's style in Chan's skating. But I have never thought of him as of a pale copy, because there are also differences in their styles. Of course, Patrick is not an artist like Stephane (at least not yet), but his speed and the ease with which he is skating are admirable and even exciting already in themselves. Plus, he is also quite charming, has some acting abilities, and it is apparent that he truly likes skating (those qualities are indeed quite similar to Stephane). Easy (I mean the mood, not technique), and elegant programs like 'Take Five', 'Don't worry, be happy' and 'Moondance' suit him really well. Although I think that the time has come for him to try something else again, which he surely is capable of.
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Post by kayin on Aug 30, 2011 21:04:58 GMT 1
Thanks for your opinion lauravvv. You are, ofcourse, correct when you say this is off topic. It is entirely my bad. If you wish to continue discussing and enlightening me on Patrick Chan I'd be happy to converse privately over PM.
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Post by pia on Aug 30, 2011 21:26:53 GMT 1
Super video Pia. I find that really interesting, because in the past I've always found Patrick to be like a pale copy of Stephane (wasn't there a season where his programme was almost idenitcal?). This is just my opinion, feel free to disagree. Oh, yes, Chan had the same Vivaldi's Four Seasons music back then in year 2007 when they both competed in Grand Prix Final. He even had there some Stéphane's original movements from his Zebra program. I must say, that I like Chan liking Stéphane's style. He himself is a great skater, enormously talented naturally, has everything, also the most difficult jumps. Only thing what a bit is missing is special and effective choreography. His programs are quite good but nothing more. Maybe Stéphane inspires him to seek more
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Post by elanor on Aug 30, 2011 22:47:33 GMT 1
Thanks for your opinion lauravvv. You are, ofcourse, correct when you say this is off topic. It is entirely my bad. If you wish to continue discussing and enlightening me on Patrick Chan I'd be happy to converse privately over PM. Patrick Chan's inspirations and copying Stephane was a much discussed subject some time ago so I don't think it is such off topic. Actually, it was always interesting topic to me. Patrick was mentioning Stephane as his inspiration since he was junior (the "infamous" vivaldi that he copied fine and it wasn't just a copy, it never disturbed me). I do believe him because it's clear he watched Stephane and there is strong influence (step sequences, all those high kicks, overdramatic details, hand moves, "artsy" poses - in good sense, he has some nice poses - and counscious attention to detail that young skaters usually don't have. He does his spin positions but many skaters do, even his music choises are like Stephane inspired warhouse version "light"). Their skating is compatible on many levels, I think, the most of young skaters. But then, Chan is not artistic skater, he is a competitive and technical skater, he skates to take the best from others, improve and win. It's interesting what he says because, in reality, it's hard to see any need for self-expression in him (or maybe he can't really do it being raised with the current rules), his skating is the opposite of individual expression, as if he watched all the instruction videos: "how to skate a perfect program, win gold and please all the judges and most general audience even if hard core fans think you are overscored". Personally, I hate such skating while admiring technical excellence it produces. This is exactly the reason why I don't watch much competitions anymore, I have no patience to get through 30 the same generic programs that don't evoke any kind of emotion or thought in me. I wondered if he would really want to work with Stephane one day, maybe on exhibition and if it would make any difference (I am sure he is able to skate it better than any other skater but it doesn't mean interpret). Or other no standard choreographer. But I don't see him wishing to get away from Lori Nichol's CoP prison any time soon, why would he if he wins with that? Just, his more than once professed "love" for Stephane's skating is kind of puzzling to me so I wondred what will come out of it.
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Post by kayin on Aug 30, 2011 22:48:03 GMT 1
Pia, you put it much better than i said it. I agree that it is good that Stephane inspires other skaters. I also agree that originality is very important too and skaters shouldn't copy.
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