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Post by sha on Mar 6, 2010 9:50:28 GMT 1
Sha, ;D ;D ;D But what we will do with the boot? ;D don't worry. Cammera will cut it off  |
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Post by honzule on Mar 8, 2010 8:07:53 GMT 1
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Post by honzule on Mar 8, 2010 12:59:44 GMT 1
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Post by kadri on Mar 8, 2010 13:08:40 GMT 1
that's what i was afraid of  oh well. no more speculations then |
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Post by freefall on Mar 8, 2010 13:37:23 GMT 1
Thank you for the news, honzule!
Well, it is over now. And I really don't know how I feel about this - glad or sad, joy and sadness are mixed inside me now.
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Post by honzule on Mar 8, 2010 13:42:47 GMT 1
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Post by honzule on Mar 8, 2010 13:49:00 GMT 1
Thank you for the news, honzule! Well, it is over now. And I really don't know how I feel about this - glad or sad, joy and sadness are mixed inside me now. Yes...it's over  I'm happy for Stéphane because the shows makes him happy...but I'm sad for me because we planned a trip to Bern next year and when he isn't there... |
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Post by elanor on Mar 8, 2010 13:56:10 GMT 1
It's not at all surprising, Stephane always said he wants to end his competitive career in Vancouver. Still a bit sad. Stephane can't be replaced even if ther's a lot of talent there. Actually, it's harder for me than his retiremnt in 2008 which I knew was necessary for his health. He spoilt me this season.  Probably now it's better for his mental well-being. I had feeling he never found himself in competition again. He was thinking about medals, points, not enjoying it anymore. The scoring system is hurting his natural expression and sense of freedom, and the atmosphere can be "dirty" and low, I'm sometimes fed up with it myself. It would be unfair to blame him if doesn't want to go through this grind. He somehow outgrew it and ther's not much more for him to achieve there. When I watched him he's on entirely different level. Most skaters will never get there even with 3 Olympic medals. He's not young for a skater, they can't compete forever, we need to let them go. Just wanted to share my mixed feelings. It's not easy to be figure skating fan. I expect everything will be fine for Stephane. Luckily, there are more chances to follow skaters' careers now. And nobody knows what will happen in a year or two, we have to wait and see. |
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Post by freefall on Mar 8, 2010 14:19:20 GMT 1
I think it wasn't just this season when he thought about points and medals, it was always in his mind in competition. But this season he had a very BIG goal - he went to Vancouver to win gold, for nothing else - he'd never gone before to any competition with such an attitude. That's why it was so hard for him to stay himself on the ice - he put too much pressure of himself.
That's why I am kind of glad that he is leaving all this behind now. He deserves a lot easier and happier life than the one you have to lead as an elite athlete.
And you are right - he can't be replaced in competition. No one is near him - neither young sportsmen, nor the more experienced ones. He is unique. He opened the world of skating for me, and I will always be interested in it, but I don't know if I will follow men's competition without him out there. Because there is no one like him in competitive sport now, no one to make you forget that here it's all about points and titles. I will miss himtoo much there to watch these events. It'll be like a night without stars.
But I know now from last year that he won't get lost, we will see him again and very often, so it's not that hard for me now to say goodbye to Lambiel the athlete as it was in autumn 2008, when I didn't know what to expect.
Farewell, Stephane! I hope you will have much more to be happy about in your new life after sport than you were when points and titles still bothered you. We were happy to have you in competition, thank you for every moment or joy and sadness you gave us! For us you were a champion of any event you participated in and will always be the one and only. Thank you and see you soon in shows!
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Post by sigrid on Mar 8, 2010 15:08:50 GMT 1
For me this season was like an extra life in a videogame (lol, what a freak example  ) I mean, the past year we had Steph skating just in galas, and that was his future, we accepted it. Later, in July, he surprised us by his comeback, and he gave us this extra season, with 2 wonderful competitive programs, 2 PB, 2 World records in PCS, 2 gold medals (NHT and Swiss Nats), 1 silver (Euros) and almost an Olympic bronze. And above all, this season gave us the most beautiful present: A healthy Stephane. Of course I wanted to see him in Bern (because it was my last chance of seeing him competing live) at home, with all that support. But if he has decided that this goal isn't interesting for him, it's OK. Let's think about all that things that surround the competitions: Stress, pressure, strict trainings... It's perfectly understandable that he doesn't wanna live all that again and again. And after seeing the AoI vids and pics, we know he's happy with this so... Have fun Stephane! |
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Post by elanor on Mar 8, 2010 15:30:05 GMT 1
I think it wasn't just this season when he thought about points and medals, it was always in his mind in competition. But this season he had a very BIG goal - he went to Vancouver to win gold, for nothing else - he'd never gone before to any competition with such an attitude. That's why it was so hard for him to stay himself on the ice - he put too much pressure of himself. I don't know, it was different before, he skated in competition with more enjoyment and freedom. But it was under different rules, ther was always possible development, sense of progression. No need to stress out with underrotations, level fours, missed combinations. The rules become more and more strict every year and the young skaters ajust better to follow them. It's good becuase the sport is more objective and fair now but I wish they did something to allow more innovation and freedom for skaters. And once you achieve the highest level and become world champion it must be very hard to maintain this status. Some skaters can do this compromising their progression with consistency (Plushenko, Kwan) to stay longer on top and skate the same programs for years. Stephane is not such a skater, he needs to develope. Good for him and for us, it will never be boring to watch him. I will watch men's competition, it's not that sad for me. There will be always talented skaters and it's inspiring to see a lot of Stephane's influence there: the music they skate to, spin positions and improving quality (did you see the young Italian guy at the Olympics?  , program composition, style and expression, everybody is doing zebra high kicks now, it aien't lost. Even Plushenko ripping off Steph's exhibition, it was kind of funny, keep trying. ;D |
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Post by ageha on Mar 8, 2010 15:58:33 GMT 1
honzule, thank you for the news. This is exactly the news I was looking for, although not the result I was hoping for. kadri, despite what I said a few weeks ago, I was worried because the show doesn't follow ISU judging methods. Oh well, I agree, at least the speculation is over. Still, I'm heartbroken. The way I understand is, a skater keeps his ISU eligibility as long as he does not participate in a show or competition that is not authorized by ISU. Once a skater participates in a show or competition that is not authorized by ISU, he loses his eligibility and cannot return to ISU competitions. So, under the current rules, the words "amateur" and "pro" are irrelevant to ISU eligibility. Skaters want to make sure that the show or competition they participate in is authorized by ISU. Meanwhile, it seems that ISU is proactive in authorizing events (to maintain their authority over various figure skating events worldwide), so we probably don't need to worry too much about it. Can you explain a bit more? Like what kind of show will not be authorized by ISU? I don't even know there is such restriction for skating show.  , I'm sorry for the late reply. Basically it has to be an ISU-sanctioned event that follows all the ISU rules, including judging method (in case of competition). For instance, Japan Open features real ISU judges, while Thin Ice features non-ISU judges (former skaters and audience). Below is a link to the ISU rules. Eligibility rules are on page 76. www.isu.org/vsite/vfile/page/fileurl/0,11040,4844-192306-209529-141863-0-file,00.pdf
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Post by honzule on Mar 8, 2010 16:07:04 GMT 1
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Post by stephanie2006 on Mar 8, 2010 16:13:19 GMT 1
For me this season was like an extra life in a videogame (lol, what a freak example ) Thank you sigrid ,you always find the right words to cheer me up. This season was the best extra life of my life  Thank you ageha for explaining the complicated ISU rules document - have you also found the passage which mentions that a skater could compete again after 2 years? |
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Post by ageha on Mar 8, 2010 16:23:11 GMT 1
Thank you ageha for explaining the complicated ISU rules document - have you also found the passage which mentions that a skater could compete again after 2 years? , I was wondering the same thing! No, I have not seen this passage...  |
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Lambiel turns back on official competitions
oh well. no more speculations then
Probably now it's better for his mental well-being. I had feeling he never found himself in competition again. He was thinking about medals, points, not enjoying it anymore. The scoring system is hurting his natural expression and sense of freedom, and the atmosphere can be "dirty" and low, I'm sometimes fed up with it myself. It would be unfair to blame him if doesn't want to go through this grind. He somehow outgrew it and ther's not much more for him to achieve there. When I watched him he's on entirely different level. Most skaters will never get there even with 3 Olympic medals. 
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, program composition, style and expression, everybody is doing zebra high kicks now, it aien't lost. Even Plushenko ripping off Steph's exhibition, it was kind of funny, keep trying. ;D
