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Post by elanor on Mar 9, 2010 19:19:45 GMT 1
The way it looks now, I think the issue is settled between the parties. Chin up, please, at least for now. I remember some ISU judged *pro-am* competitions in the past, with a mix of eligibles and ineligibles, and some great performances. What the pro scene could use are some high quality competitions, although most of the times they seem pre-scripted. I think the landscape will change for the better in the non-eligible circuit, although I'm not sure it would happen in the short 2 year period. It could not get any worse than now! I hope there will be some high quality OPEN competitions, with serious judging. I can dream ... I'm going to put my hopes in various skaters' sense of mission and enterprising spirit, and cooperation among themselves. -- S4 But there is no pro scene anymore and ISU is not interested in having one. On the contrary they work against the skaters who would like something more than Eurovision or Skating with the Stars. It's the sad point skaters like Stephane and other talented performers don't really have a place to go once they can't meet the rigour of regular competition anymore or just want to do something else than CoP uniformed skating. I don't see it change very fast. I understand Stephane doesn't want to compete now or ever (well, we know he might change his mind in 10 months if he feels good) but turning down on ISU when there are not many better chances might look strange, I hope it's well prepared decision, not a rush one and they talked it over. I wish Stephane's management clarifies a bit what it means for him in reality.  Because it sounded as if he doesn't want to keep his status at all. This is a bit different than other retirements, more or less official. He never did anything like this so this makes me wonder... Sorry for continuing sad topic, bad day today.  |
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Post by goldguegi on Mar 9, 2010 19:46:15 GMT 1
I really have a huge question mark about all these articles. Why is there no official statement? This has never been the case before! And I somehow have the feeling that there might be something wrong. In Switzerland you can nowhere read about Stéphane's retirement except in those few articles in French from yesterday (the only one German article I found from NZZ had the wrong title, wrong sport and also Stéphane's age was wrong and it disappeard shortly after). I really don't know what to think about it. If it's really his wish to retire again then I'm sad about it. But as Sigrid already wrote: Thank you for this wonderful season Stéphane! It was a real gift!  I just hope that Stéphane and his management were aware of the consequences "Thin Ice" has... It would probably also mean that Stéphane cannot skate at the exhibition in Bern. They wanted to invite him if he doesn't compete there.  |
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Post by freefall on Mar 9, 2010 19:50:08 GMT 1
Why is there no official statement? This has never been the case before! I find it strange too |
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Post by elanor on Mar 9, 2010 20:00:09 GMT 1
Exactly my thoughts, goldguegi. Since yesterday I was wondering what it means. I don't have very good feeling about it... maybe it's just miscommunication...
Also it's not the best time to make serious and binding decisions about future carrer. Stephane needs some rest from all the big pressure.
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Post by Sally IV on Mar 9, 2010 20:15:24 GMT 1
Also it's not the best time to make serious and binding decisions about future carrer. Stephane needs some rest from all the big pressure. Yes. The timing is rather ... interesting. -- S4 |
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Post by kadri on Mar 9, 2010 20:25:11 GMT 1
I just hope that Stéphane and his management were aware of the consequences "Thin Ice" has... i can't really imagine that they didn't know about it  at leas i'm hoping this is not the case... |
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Post by Keten on Mar 9, 2010 20:44:16 GMT 1
I want to add another question, this is an "eligible skater board". What will happen to our board as Stéphane is now ineligible? And you confuse me. I mean, he won't be skating in ISU competitions. OK. This means no Grand Prix, no Euros or Worlds. Which is actually what he wanted I guess, and by participating in Thin Ice, he somehow made it clear. He won't have any worries and hesitations about this for at least 2 years now. But I don't think it will stop him from having a short show in European Championship Gala next year, if he agrees.. I don't know :S Well, whatever. Here's another article about it, if it's not sent earlier: www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iWuOvTFy61tw6M4ppOS-dh3VSzVw |
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Post by kevinbw on Mar 9, 2010 21:18:07 GMT 1
I want to add another question, this is an "eligible skater board". What will happen to our board as Stéphane is now ineligible? well i hope we can still have the board? |
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Post by pia on Mar 9, 2010 22:03:30 GMT 1
I want to add another question, this is an "eligible skater board". What will happen to our board as Stéphane is now ineligible? Maybe we should take one day at a time... |
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Post by EMJO on Mar 9, 2010 22:56:01 GMT 1
Surprizes me that someone( like Stephane) who wants to be free, closes a door as this might be.(for a reality show)
Still... I said it before ISU is very old fashioned it is time to wake up and walk into the modern age!
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Post by Nadin on Mar 9, 2010 23:43:29 GMT 1
I want to add another question, this is an "eligible skater board". What will happen to our board as Stéphane is now ineligible? Should Stéphane officially not be eligible anymore, then we would only move the messageboard to the affiliated sites section, where discussion can continue as normal, so we wouldn’t close it. For now, there hasn't been an official announcement from him, so things will remain as they are. |
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Post by beti on Mar 10, 2010 0:06:19 GMT 1
I am new here, and I don’t know anything about ISU ways. I just cannot imagine that 1. Stephane would make any hasty decision or put himself in conflict with anyone, and 2. that ISU would be so willing to exclude such widely respected skater, with the power to attract so many fans to the sport the ISU people make a living of. And as for facing modern age: we are doing it. By choosing what we want to watch and whose career we follow, we can change things. Maybe I am dreaming something up, but if so many people want to watch really good figure skating shows, the shows will take place, and be avaiable by all kinds of media (VOD, cable, anything...). There is a lot of people who don’t wish to follow the TV schedule and actively pursue things they are interested in. I believe this is the kind of freedom that will only grow and create more and more space for things people love and consider true (like Stephanes skating ). Got pretty serious, somehow -- but I needed to think of something positive  |
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Post by kaymil01 on Mar 10, 2010 3:09:50 GMT 1
Well if Stephane doesn't want to compete anymore AT ALL, without changing his mind, well then, that's what he wants. But...Thin Ice is only a 2 part episode show! 2 hours worth of it, that's it. I would hate for Stephane to be ineligible for 2 years all because of a 2 hour television show! and I doubt that Stephane can back out of the show now...I'm sure he's signed a contract and all that.
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Post by Melodie on Mar 10, 2010 13:24:29 GMT 1
Looks like 1 hour =1 year  Really, ladies, i don't see the point why you're so upset. Stephane quit the competitive sport, but turned to Olys, he didn't want to speak about future, because all his minds as well as all his forces were in Vancouver. Now he quit it for sure. I even can't imagine that he and his management wasn't informed about Thin Ice. I amost bet that this point was included in the contract. Yes, we all love competition, but don't we love shows? As for me, i'm very happy he swithced to shows, he likes it, he can express himself as an artist there without these obligatory jumps, elements, duration of spins etc. I'd even say he makes progress in his profession. Why not? I suppose it is good! I don't know about Gala in Bern. If rules let professionals skate in the Gala, he might be invited. If not -no, and in case the rules won't be changed. But personally me, i cannot imagine Swiss competition without Swiss main and the only fs hero  I don't know how you're upset, from now on Stephane is going to visit so many countries and continents! Our chances to see him live raises every day! - if not in this year, than in the next one. Hey, cheer up! |
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Post by EMJO on Mar 10, 2010 13:44:29 GMT 1
positive thinking .... the cow bells...my ears will not be hurt by them anymore Well at least dont think there will be that many...just imagine what the sound level would have been in Bern ...no seriously I loved them just don't want to sit too close to them again. As for Steph not competing ,FINE doing more shows ,SUPER GREAT but not being amateur,NOT so good. means NO Exhibition according to old fashioned ISU. Therefore I think it is a poor decision he has made for him and his country.(thinking of Bern) |
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Because it sounded as if he doesn't want to keep his status at all. This is a bit different than other retirements, more or less official. He never did anything like this so this makes me wonder... Sorry for continuing sad topic, bad day today. 
"On the ice you are free. And the freedom is magnificent." (Stephane Lambiel)
at leas i'm hoping this is not the case...
