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Post by sunnyskate on May 20, 2005 23:48:43 GMT 1
I can completely understand that.
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Post by La Rhumba on May 22, 2005 3:48:06 GMT 1
I think it's totally wrong, and will devalue the British Championships if the Kerrs can't compete. If necessary NISA must change the dates - even if it's only for the Dance event - we've had seperate Dance and Figure Brits before many times. Mel, do you know if the BBC are covering the event because it's Winter Olympic year? If they are, and have agreed a date and contract, that would make it more difficult to change, but then again, any TV coverage would want to include the No. 1 Dancers, or what's the point in broadcasting it? Anyway, a solution needs to be found, and it's up to NISA to change the dates, as NHK won't. The whole situation will be ridiculous otherwise.
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Post by Melanie on May 22, 2005 10:01:42 GMT 1
Mel, do you know if the BBC are covering the event because it's Winter Olympic year? I have absolutely no idea. Hmmmm, I think Nisa should move the Dance comp. Wouldn't it be strange to introduce S&J as the British No2s at Olympics? If Nisa are asked why they're sending No2s to Olympics they can always proudly say, "Oh we made them miss it because we organised the Nationals to coincide with a GP event - so accustomed are we to having nobody good enough to take part in such events, we forgot to change the date of the nationals. "
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Post by sunnyskate on May 22, 2005 15:45:59 GMT 1
I am rather curious why they would schedule Nationals at the same time as a GP event... Maybe there's something I don't know about, but I don't think it's a very smart thing to do. I can't imagine someone like, say, Tanith and Ben missing our Nationals because they had to do a GP...pretty sure USFS wouldn't let that happen!
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Post by Melanie on May 22, 2005 15:54:59 GMT 1
I am rather curious why they would schedule Nationals at the same time as a GP event... Answers on a postcard to: National Ice Skating Association (NISA) Lower Parliament Street Nottingham NG1 1LA Tel: 0115 9888060 Fax: 0115 9888061 info@iceskating.org.uk
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Post by La Rhumba on May 22, 2005 17:04:13 GMT 1
I'm definitely going to write to Keith Horton about it. It's just another example of how obstacles are put in front of our skaters. Having declared they would support S&J till 2010, based on their excellent international results, NISA then schedule our Championships at a date clashing with the GP calender - knowing in advance that the Kerrs have already qualified for 2 of those events based on their 12th place at Worlds, and it was unknown which events they would be selected for. Have you got a roll-eyes graemlin here Mel, cos that's what's needed.
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Post by miffy on May 22, 2005 17:27:09 GMT 1
The dates were chosen before Sinead and John had qualified for the Olympics, but ITA it was ridiculous scheduling Nats to clash with the GP series, especially as Sinead and John had already got 2 GP events the year before, there was a good chance they would get 2 again and might have to miss Nats. Strictly speaking, they wouldn't be the British No 2s, would they? If the O's won Nats in the absence of the Kerrs, and were 'The British no 1s' for that reason, wouldn't Towler-Green/Poole or whoever came second be the No 2's? I think the Kerrs would still be referred to as the top British team, just not the current National champions. MOVE THE DATES ASAP NISA!
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Post by Melanie on May 22, 2005 17:34:27 GMT 1
Strictly speaking, they wouldn't be the British No 2s, would they? If the O's won Nats in the absence of the Kerrs, and were 'The British no 1s' for that reason, wouldn't Towler-Green/Poole or whoever came second be the No 2's? I think the Kerrs would still be referred to as the top British team, just not the current National champions. MOVE THE DATES ASAP NISA! Yes you're right Miffy, and they would still be the top British team. I had too much coffee again.
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Post by sunnyskate on May 22, 2005 21:02:15 GMT 1
Also, Sinead and John aren't the only skaters to represent GBR. Jenna McCorkell is as well, so would they not care if she missed it, too? One would think the organization wouldn't do that to their own skaters. I would like to know if there's a real reason why they had to be scheduled then, or if there's just some sort of lack of attention to that week. I'll have to email them. I would think it'd be difficult to change the date, but with Sinead and John's popularity, one would think that more people would attend if they attended. JMO.
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Post by Melanie on May 22, 2005 21:06:38 GMT 1
The nationals are always first few days of December or thereabouts.
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Post by La Rhumba on May 22, 2005 21:46:21 GMT 1
Apart from T&D's Comeback year of 94 when the BBC wanted it in January, just before Europeans. Also in 1991, it was the same day as the Rugby World Cup Final at Twickenham in early November. Both times, it was a seperate Dance event, so it can be done. Re Miffy's comment: Well, that was in March, so that must mean that the date for 2005 Brits was chosen almost a year before it's due to take place - how ridiculous is that? I know people who already have hotel reservations booked, but is Sheffield really THAT busy it can't be changed to a different date, and is it really THAT complicated to organize a Brits it needs to be done waaaaaaaaay in advance. Even a Royal Wedding doesn't take that long! Sunny - welcome to the world of British Skating. You are quite rightly looking for a logical explanation of why decisions are made - here's a tip for you, in the UK, it sadly isn't.
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Post by La Rhumba on May 25, 2005 23:56:44 GMT 1
Well, I've emailed both Keith Horton, and another NISA UK Admin person, and so far no replies. Does NISA ever reply to mail these days?
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Post by sunnyskate on May 26, 2005 4:52:09 GMT 1
A shame. I would think they would need quite a chunk of time to organize it. Not just the competition but arranging for judges to come, volunteers --coordination issues. Though if there aren't logical explanations, I could stick my foot in my mouth.
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Post by miffy on May 31, 2005 20:16:07 GMT 1
It looks like the Kerrs are no longer listed for NHK, but they have not been listed on a different event yet. Hoffman/Elek who previously were only listed for one event have now been added to NHK. I wonder how they will give the Kerrs another assignment if the rosters are full?
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Post by sunnyskate on May 31, 2005 22:26:13 GMT 1
They better! One would think that they wouldn't take them off and not give them another choice as it seems as though they'd rather not miss out on a GP even if they had to miss out on Nationals...but that's just based on what I've already read. I hope we find out soon! Thanks for the info.
I took a look at the roster again and one thing I can say is that US Figure Skating made an announcement on their website (usfsa.org) that Naomi and Peter declined to accept their invitation to compete at Skate America (apparently they had been contemplating skating this season but decided not to). If nothing there has changed, that's one open spot in Skate America. I know that they've already been here, but that could be a possibility that would work out better than NHK and as we know they're not listed for that one any longer. I know I would be thrilled to have them come again. I just don't know, though, if US Figure Skating would invite one of it's own to make 3 teams or if they'd invite Sinead and John. Personally, I would rather see Sinead and John as our other top teams are already slated for two and I would simply rather see Sinead and John!!! Just my 2 cents.
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